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December 15, 2012

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Kim Reece

Very interesting chart, but I'm not persuaded that correlation is causation in this case. Couldn't there be other aspects of US culture than gun ownership encouraging a higher rate of fatal assault? (Including, perhaps, ones coincidentally encouraging a higher rate of gun ownership, such as feeling at risk of fatal assaults.) It seems to me that US culture has a broad array of potential contributing traits on that front.

Greg Sanders

Thanks for commenting.

I'd definitely agree that there are a range of potential factors. However, in this case, I think the casual mechanism is quite straightforward and is supported by the other charts on Ezra Klein's post.

The casual mechanism I'm thinking of is that, that violence, committed with guns, substantially raises the possibility of fatalities. I think this becomes clear when looking at the suicide rate and household gun ownership. Now obviously there's a selection bias with such ownership, but "they controlled for measures of poverty, urbanization, unemployment, drug and alcohol dependence and abuse, and mental illness." Military commanders picked up on this connections and tried to implement restrictions on taking home weapons, only to run into vehement opposition by the NRA.

I think the dicey question isn't so much the relationship of guns and violence but what is the most effective means to reduce the level of violence. Not all gun control is created equal by any means both in terms of effectiveness and intrusiveness. But I don't think we can have that conversation until we admit that we have a problem and that it is vanishingly unlikely that the solution to our problem is more guns.

Greg Sanders

Correction: The military regulations that was banned by a NRA support provision involves commanders talking with troops about private gun ownership and registering their private weapons. I'd read about the taking gun homes matter in the Switzerland/Israel post and confused the articles.

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